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Lars Roith

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Since: Mar 25, 2004
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:28 pm
Post subject: Clustering data
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Hello everybody,

I have a relational database containign a table with a lot of facts (e.g.
yearly income).
Now I want to build groups/clusters for the yearly income.
Is there a way to have the analysis services doing the job automtically?
The result should be:
e.g 7 Clusters with the following properties:
income between 0 and 20k
income between 20k and 30k
....

How can I achieve this.

TIA,

Lars

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Jamie MacLennan 1

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2004 7:28 pm
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This sounds like grouping, not clustering. If on the other hand, you want
to automatically detect the clusters, you can create a mining model in
Analysis Services using the clustering algorithm. You would set the Cluster
Count to 7 (in the model properties in the Mining Editor) and set the Income
property to input. You can either ignore all other columns, or set their
values to "Predict Only."

Afterwards you can run a query to determine which cluster each customer was
assigned - check out the FAQ at
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://groups.msn.com/AnalysisServicesDataMining" target="_blank">http://groups.msn.com/AnalysisServicesDataMining</a> for details.

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"Lars Roith" <lars.roith DeleteThis @nospam.aitag.com> wrote in message
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 > Hello everybody,
 >
 > I have a relational database containign a table with a lot of facts (e.g.
 > yearly income).
 > Now I want to build groups/clusters for the yearly income.
 > Is there a way to have the analysis services doing the job automtically?
 > The result should be:
 > e.g 7 Clusters with the following properties:
 > income between 0 and 20k
 > income between 20k and 30k
 > ...
 >
 > How can I achieve this.
 >
 > TIA,
 >
 > Lars
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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Lars Roith

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Mar 26, 2004 6:33 pm
Post subject: Re: Clustering data [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hallo Jamie,

thanks for the answer.

Yes, it is a little bit like grouping.
The main problem is that the data is continuous.
I created a mining model containing the columns to be watched.
For all columns I set the Content type to DISCRETIZED so the analysis server
tries to group
these columns. Afterwards I queried the model to find out wich case belongs
to which cluster.
The FAQ was very helpful for this task and together with BOL a solution was
found.
Now I can dive deeper into my data.
..
Thanks,

Lars

"Jamie MacLennan (MS)" <jamiemac.RemoveThis@online.microsoft.com> schrieb im
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 > This sounds like grouping, not clustering. If on the other hand, you want
 > to automatically detect the clusters, you can create a mining model in
 > Analysis Services using the clustering algorithm. You would set the
Cluster
 > Count to 7 (in the model properties in the Mining Editor) and set the
Income
 > property to input. You can either ignore all other columns, or set their
 > values to "Predict Only."
 >
 > Afterwards you can run a query to determine which cluster each customer
was
 > assigned - check out the FAQ at
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://groups.msn.com/AnalysisServicesDataMining" target="_blank">http://groups.msn.com/AnalysisServicesDataMining</a> for details.
 >
 > --
 >
 > -Jamie MacLennan
 > SQL Server Data Mining
 > This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights.
 > "Lars Roith" <lars.roith.RemoveThis@nospam.aitag.com> wrote in message
 > news:%23VirZ3nEEHA.2272@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
  > > Hello everybody,
  > >
  > > I have a relational database containign a table with a lot of facts
(e.g.
  > > yearly income).
  > > Now I want to build groups/clusters for the yearly income.
  > > Is there a way to have the analysis services doing the job automtically?
  > > The result should be:
  > > e.g 7 Clusters with the following properties:
  > > income between 0 and 20k
  > > income between 20k and 30k
  > > ...
  > >
  > > How can I achieve this.
  > >
  > > TIA,
  > >
  > > Lars
  > >
  > >
 >
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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