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Jamie10

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 12:57 pm
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We have Windows XP workstations and I'm trying to figure out what this
Client software is? Can anyone give me some information on this?

Installing MSSQL Client Software
Before installing the application, you will need to install your MSSQL
Client software that
matches the version of your MSSQL server. After installing the Client
software, it is a good idea to test
your connection to the MSSQL database. Be sure to remember your Server Name
and
Database Name for the Database, as you'll need it during the installation.

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David Gugick

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 1:02 pm
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Jamie wrote:
 > We have Windows XP workstations and I'm trying to figure out what this
 > Client software is? Can anyone give me some information on this?
 >
 > Installing MSSQL Client Software
 > Before installing the application, you will need to install your MSSQL
 > Client software that
 > matches the version of your MSSQL server. After installing the Client
 > software, it is a good idea to test
 > your connection to the MSSQL database. Be sure to remember your
 > Server Name and
 > Database Name for the Database, as you'll need it during the
 > installation.

That refers to the SQL Server Client Tools that come with SQL Server.
They are installed directly from the SQL Server CD.

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Jamie10

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:03 pm
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What do these SQL client tools provide that establish the connection?


"David Gugick" wrote in message

 > Jamie wrote:
  >> We have Windows XP workstations and I'm trying to figure out what this
  >> Client software is? Can anyone give me some information on this?
  >>
  >> Installing MSSQL Client Software
  >> Before installing the application, you will need to install your MSSQL
  >> Client software that
  >> matches the version of your MSSQL server. After installing the Client
  >> software, it is a good idea to test
  >> your connection to the MSSQL database. Be sure to remember your
  >> Server Name and
  >> Database Name for the Database, as you'll need it during the
  >> installation.
 >
 > That refers to the SQL Server Client Tools that come with SQL Server. They
 > are installed directly from the SQL Server CD.
 >
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 > David Gugick
 > Imceda Software
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David Gugick

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:31 pm
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Jamie wrote:
 > What do these SQL client tools provide that establish the connection?
 >

They install some native drivers in addition to the tools themselves.
Most client applications require installation of MDAC, but nothing more,
for SQL Server access. I can only guess whatever you're installing has
some need to access the client tools. No way of knowing, however. Maybe
if you provide more information about what you're doing.

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Jamie10

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:41 pm
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That is what they say. I just don't understand why? I have never had an
application need this and it makes me wonder why they wrote theirs to need
this.

As far as MDAC isn't this automatically already on XP? I have other apps
that need MDAC and it doesn't install MDAC with XP like it used to with 98.

I know it needs this file - ntwdblib.dll and I guess the client installs
this file. Is there any reason why it would need others or do you know what
this file does?

Jamie

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 > Jamie wrote:
  >> What do these SQL client tools provide that establish the connection?
  >>
 >
 > They install some native drivers in addition to the tools themselves. Most
 > client applications require installation of MDAC, but nothing more, for
 > SQL Server access. I can only guess whatever you're installing has some
 > need to access the client tools. No way of knowing, however. Maybe if you
 > provide more information about what you're doing.
 >
 > --
 > David Gugick
 > Imceda Software
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David Gugick

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:38 pm
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Jamie wrote:
 > That is what they say. I just don't understand why? I have never
 > had an application need this and it makes me wonder why they wrote
 > theirs to need this.
 >
 > As far as MDAC isn't this automatically already on XP? I have other
 > apps that need MDAC and it doesn't install MDAC with XP like it used
 > to with 98.
 > I know it needs this file - ntwdblib.dll and I guess the client
 > installs this file. Is there any reason why it would need others or
 > do you know what this file does?
 >
 > Jamie

ntwdblib.dll is the client library for dbLib. I think it's a SQL 7 DLL
and not a SQL 200 one. not sure. Why not contact the software
manufacturer and see why the client tools are required. Maybe the
application uses tools like OSQL or BCP.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 5:51 pm
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AFAIK, dblib has not been updated in SQL Server 2000 from the previous
version. Microsoft has made it clear years back that dblib is a dead-end so
if folks continue to develop on dblib, they're asking for trouble.

As for the "client software", that's probably just a generic set of
instructions from the ISVs especially if they support other databases like
Oracle (which has a big client component and we're not even talking tools
here). Apart from that, David's guess on apps is about as close as it gets.


joe.


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 > Jamie wrote:
  >> That is what they say. I just don't understand why? I have never
  >> had an application need this and it makes me wonder why they wrote
  >> theirs to need this.
  >>
  >> As far as MDAC isn't this automatically already on XP? I have other
  >> apps that need MDAC and it doesn't install MDAC with XP like it used
  >> to with 98.
  >> I know it needs this file - ntwdblib.dll and I guess the client
  >> installs this file. Is there any reason why it would need others or
  >> do you know what this file does?
  >>
  >> Jamie
 >
 > ntwdblib.dll is the client library for dbLib. I think it's a SQL 7 DLL and
 > not a SQL 200 one. not sure. Why not contact the software manufacturer and
 > see why the client tools are required. Maybe the application uses tools
 > like OSQL or BCP.
 >
 > --
 > David Gugick
 > Imceda Software
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