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IQ Rules

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:50 pm
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Which IDE is most popular and easy to use?

Thanks

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salmobytes

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 5:50 pm
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IQ Rules wrote:
> Which IDE is most popular and easy to use?
>
> Thanks

vi and xterm Smile

I do have the latest Zend IDE. I seldom use it except for prettying up
the code. I used eclipse for Java for a while, but ended up preferring
Netbeans.

I never did try to get eclipse for PHP up and running, because
I'm perfectly happy with vi in the PHP context.

(kmajs)

by the way: Zend has been making a big fuss about its PHP5/lucene port.
Lucene in Java/Tomcat is zippy-fast and hard to beat. But PHP5 lucene
is annoyingly slow--way too slow to index much on a shared host for
instance, without timing out before finishing.

For indexing keyword searches, hyperestraier (which is c-based open
source, and not PHP) is hard to beat.

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larry

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 6:11 pm
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On Oct 10, 2:50 pm, IQ Rules <dbmeth....RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote:
> Which IDE is most popular and easy to use?
>
> Thanks

I like Quanta Plus on Linux, it goes way beyond just an editor,
includes project file manager, plugins for find/replace within all
files of your project, template tools, color picker, tag macros, etc.
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Dikkie Dik

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 8:25 pm
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> Which IDE is most popular and easy to use?


Probably not most popular, but definitely easy to use: PSPad on wine. It
starts up slow (because it start up "windows"), but I could not find any
decent native Linux editor that comes even close.

Getting bashed with vi is more than enough reason to quit Linux. Unless
you passed the five year study that it requires...

vi is powerful, but not exactly user friendly.
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Kristaps_Kûlis

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:23 am
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On Oct 11, 12:50 am, IQ Rules <dbmeth....RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote:
> Which IDE is most popular and easy to use?
>
> Thanks

I prefer to use EclipsePDT.
http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/


Best wishes,
Kristaps Kûlis
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:08 pm
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PDT For The Win (2) http://www.eclipse.org/pdt/

To quick-edit singular PHP files when I'm in a hurry or that file is
not on my workspace, I use SciTE.

All the best,
Pedro Fialho
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salmobytes

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 7:47 am
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Dikkie Dik wrote:
> vi is powerful, but not exactly user friendly.

Yes, this is true. I hated vi for many years. But once you
do get over it's formidable learning curve, vi's speed becomes
addicting.

I can mark text, move, delete, search and replace in a nanosecond.
I have macros attached to odd-ball keys, etc, that allow me to
complete complex text-manipulation tasks in about the time it takes
to find and reach for the mouse, in an IDE context.

By the time I would have completed a reach and wiggle the mouse, scroll,
hightlight, scroll, click, paste from a menu I've long ago finished that
in vi, and already written two more lines of code. Searching for text
patterns from the keyboard is almost instantaneous.

That's hard to beat in my book.
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Michael Fesser

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 5:26 pm
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..oO(salmobytes)

>Dikkie Dik wrote:
>> vi is powerful, but not exactly user friendly.
>
>Yes, this is true. I hated vi for many years. But once you
>do get over it's formidable learning curve, vi's speed becomes
>addicting.

I use it on remote logins and for quick edits on my server, but would
never compare it to a full-featured and extensible IDE.

>I can mark text, move, delete, search and replace in a nanosecond.
>I have macros attached to odd-ball keys, etc, that allow me to
>complete complex text-manipulation tasks in about the time it takes
>to find and reach for the mouse, in an IDE context.
>
>By the time I would have completed a reach and wiggle the mouse, scroll,
>hightlight, scroll, click, paste from a menu I've long ago finished that
>in vi, and already written two more lines of code.

You know that every IDE also has a lot of keyboard shortcuts, code
templates etc.? Not to mention the many additional features that vi
probably can't cope with.

>Searching for text
>patterns from the keyboard is almost instantaneous.
>
>That's hard to beat in my book.

Maybe you should learn how to use and customize your IDE. I hardly need
the mouse in my Eclipse, at least not for the stuff you mentioned above.

Micha
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Satya

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:55 pm
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On Oct 11, 6:11 am, la....TakeThisOut@portcommodore.com wrote:
> On Oct 10, 2:50 pm, IQ Rules <dbmeth....TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> > Which IDE is most popular and easy to use?
>
> > Thanks
>
> I like Quanta Plus on Linux, it goes way beyond just an editor,
> includes project file manager, plugins for find/replace within all
> files of your project, template tools, color picker, tag macros, etc.

Yes, Quanta Plus is very good for Linux. I am missing that on Window.
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salmobytes

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 4:53 pm
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Someone wrote:
> Maybe you should learn how to use and customize your IDE. I hardly need
> the mouse in my Eclipse, at least not for the stuff you mentioned above.
>

Probably a well taken comment. And perhaps I should look more closely at
Eclipse. I have the Zend IDE, which has several pages of keyboard
shortcuts, some of which are handy. But what Zend doesn't seem to have
(that use most of all) is a quick way to make named labels (bookmarks)
and then copy from there to here....

:'a,'b co .

and then cut

:'a,'b d

Maybe I'm just dumb, but with Zend I have to use
the mouse to get that far.
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 9:39 pm
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I installed eclipse and entropy PHP 5 on PowerMac OSX 10.4.
It works great.
Added this to /etc/php.ini
zend_extension=/Developer/Extras/PHP/ZendDebugger.so
zend_debugger.expose_remotely=allowed_hosts
end_debugger.allow_hosts=127.0.0.1

MDD-Power-Mac-G4:/etc $ /usr/local/php5/bin/php /Sites/test.php | grep
-i debug
Debug Build => no
with Zend Debugger v5.2.14, Copyright (c) 1999-2008, by Zend
Technologies
extension_dir =>
/usr/local/php5/lib/php/extensions/no-debug-non-zts-20060613 =>
/usr/local/php5/lib/php/extensions/no-debug-non-zts-20060613
report_zend_debug => Off => Off
Zend Debugger
zend_debugger.allow_hosts => 127.0.0.1 => 127.0.0.1
zend_debugger.allow_tunnel => no value => no value
zend_debugger.connect_password => no value => no value
zend_debugger.deny_hosts => no value => no value
zend_debugger.expose_remotely => allowed_hosts => allowed_hosts
zend_debugger.httpd_uid => -1 => -1
zend_debugger.max_msg_size => 2097152 => 2097152
zend_debugger.tunnel_max_port => 65535 => 65535
zend_debugger.tunnel_min_port => 1024 => 1024


salmobytes wrote:
> Someone wrote:
>> Maybe you should learn how to use and customize your IDE. I hardly need
>> the mouse in my Eclipse, at least not for the stuff you mentioned above.
>>
>
> Probably a well taken comment. And perhaps I should look more closely at
> Eclipse. I have the Zend IDE, which has several pages of keyboard
> shortcuts, some of which are handy. But what Zend doesn't seem to have
> (that use most of all) is a quick way to make named labels (bookmarks)
> and then copy from there to here....
>
> :'a,'b co .
>
> and then cut
>
> :'a,'b d
>
> Maybe I'm just dumb, but with Zend I have to use
> the mouse to get that far.
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