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Since: Aug 19, 2008 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:14 pm
Post subject: Simple Way to Let Many Edit/View Single Table Archived from groups: microsoft>public>access>dataaccess>pages (more info?)
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Hi,
I have a large project with different people working on different parts. We
currently have a spreadsheet with some data on the status of each
sub-project. This is slightly cumbersome, because multiple people can't use
at the same time and frankly because some non-savvy users simply have a hard
time navigating to our network drive.
I was just investigating the possibility of making an Access Data Access
Page that I could stick on our intranet. I had to have our IT support
install some XML thing on my computer, and the Data Access Page feature
finally works for me in Access, but I can only create Data Access Pages in a
general forms view, when what I really want is a datasheet view. The users
really need to be able to see a table, not one record at a time.
I'm not wedded to the Data Access Page idea, but does anyone have any ideas
for alternatives, or for how I can get a datasheet view Data Access Page? I
know I could create a front-end/back-end database and hand out copies of it,
but I find when that happens I end up babysitting people who don't know how
to do simple things like copying a file from a network drive to their local
drive. There's too many people in this project for me to start doing that.
A related question I have is how many people can I safely have editing a
single database (i.e., not a front-end/back-end set-up) simultaneously? I
seem to remember doing more than one once, but I also remember reading that
it can't support very many. Any details about this? If I was reasonably
sure that not more than a few people would be on at any given time, could I
just email everyone a link to a single database? Whould it make it any
better if I emailed everyone a link to a single front-end database that
edited a separate back-end database?
Any other thoughts are welcome.
Thanks,
TD >> Stay informed about: Simple Way to Let Many Edit/View Single Table |
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Since: Mar 08, 2008 Posts: 210
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:28 pm
Post subject: Re: Simple Way to Let Many Edit/View Single Table [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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One, I'm not an expert
Two, No one should have to navigate to find work, that is what shortcuts are
for
Three, Data Access has its place but you need to be advanced user and have
full and fuller support of network folks
Four, Frontend and backend is very good for workgroup size office
Five, copying files should never have to happen at user level, must handle
in your application if you want it dependable.
Six, Quanty of people using front and backend data file really depends on
complexity and size of the datafile. By the way, you can use one front end
and many backends to extend Access for record count but be careful with
queries, and forms so the backends are logically grouped and closed when not
needed.
Seven, Every user must have their own front end and they can share the
backends as needed.
Eight, Performance and quanity of useres, I have used frontend and backend
with up to 50 users with no problem and I have also replicated with the 50
but if you don't replicate by the numbers...you better have a super backup
program.
Nine, You want to keep network bandwidth down, why pass forms, and such back
and forth, stick with frontend on workstation and data on network!!!!
Really good questions, you're thinking, Pete
"td" <td RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:368B6B4C-B1B6-4769-954D-0BB6C366F30B@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have a large project with different people working on different parts.
> We
> currently have a spreadsheet with some data on the status of each
> sub-project. This is slightly cumbersome, because multiple people can't
> use
> at the same time and frankly because some non-savvy users simply have a
> hard
> time navigating to our network drive.
>
> I was just investigating the possibility of making an Access Data Access
> Page that I could stick on our intranet. I had to have our IT support
> install some XML thing on my computer, and the Data Access Page feature
> finally works for me in Access, but I can only create Data Access Pages in
> a
> general forms view, when what I really want is a datasheet view. The
> users
> really need to be able to see a table, not one record at a time.
>
> I'm not wedded to the Data Access Page idea, but does anyone have any
> ideas
> for alternatives, or for how I can get a datasheet view Data Access Page?
> I
> know I could create a front-end/back-end database and hand out copies of
> it,
> but I find when that happens I end up babysitting people who don't know
> how
> to do simple things like copying a file from a network drive to their
> local
> drive. There's too many people in this project for me to start doing
> that.
>
> A related question I have is how many people can I safely have editing a
> single database (i.e., not a front-end/back-end set-up) simultaneously? I
> seem to remember doing more than one once, but I also remember reading
> that
> it can't support very many. Any details about this? If I was reasonably
> sure that not more than a few people would be on at any given time, could
> I
> just email everyone a link to a single database? Whould it make it any
> better if I emailed everyone a link to a single front-end database that
> edited a separate back-end database?
>
> Any other thoughts are welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> TD >> Stay informed about: Simple Way to Let Many Edit/View Single Table |
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Since: Aug 19, 2008 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:08 am
Post subject: Re: Simple Way to Let Many Edit/View Single Table [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"...that's what shortcuts are for."
Well, someone still has to install the shortcuts, and I guarantee you a
decent percentage of these people don't know how to do that. And I'm not an
administrator, so i can't just push the files and shortcuts onto their
computers.
I did make a bat file to copy front-end database and make a shortcut (and
copy some dll files) for a smaller project, but I ended up babysitting those
people too.
Bottom line is that when I do front-end solutions, I end up babysitting a
bunch of people who don't know how to do even simple things on their
computers (like copying files and making shortcuts). That is exactly what I
DO do when I have a manageably-sized group, but this new project is too big.
And seems like there must be an easier solution.
"Pete D." wrote:
> One, I'm not an expert
> Two, No one should have to navigate to find work, that is what shortcuts are
> for
> Three, Data Access has its place but you need to be advanced user and have
> full and fuller support of network folks
> Four, Frontend and backend is very good for workgroup size office
> Five, copying files should never have to happen at user level, must handle
> in your application if you want it dependable.
> Six, Quanty of people using front and backend data file really depends on
> complexity and size of the datafile. By the way, you can use one front end
> and many backends to extend Access for record count but be careful with
> queries, and forms so the backends are logically grouped and closed when not
> needed.
> Seven, Every user must have their own front end and they can share the
> backends as needed.
> Eight, Performance and quanity of useres, I have used frontend and backend
> with up to 50 users with no problem and I have also replicated with the 50
> but if you don't replicate by the numbers...you better have a super backup
> program.
> Nine, You want to keep network bandwidth down, why pass forms, and such back
> and forth, stick with frontend on workstation and data on network!!!!
> Really good questions, you're thinking, Pete
>
> "td" <td.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:368B6B4C-B1B6-4769-954D-0BB6C366F30B@microsoft.com...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have a large project with different people working on different parts.
> > We
> > currently have a spreadsheet with some data on the status of each
> > sub-project. This is slightly cumbersome, because multiple people can't
> > use
> > at the same time and frankly because some non-savvy users simply have a
> > hard
> > time navigating to our network drive.
> >
> > I was just investigating the possibility of making an Access Data Access
> > Page that I could stick on our intranet. I had to have our IT support
> > install some XML thing on my computer, and the Data Access Page feature
> > finally works for me in Access, but I can only create Data Access Pages in
> > a
> > general forms view, when what I really want is a datasheet view. The
> > users
> > really need to be able to see a table, not one record at a time.
> >
> > I'm not wedded to the Data Access Page idea, but does anyone have any
> > ideas
> > for alternatives, or for how I can get a datasheet view Data Access Page?
> > I
> > know I could create a front-end/back-end database and hand out copies of
> > it,
> > but I find when that happens I end up babysitting people who don't know
> > how
> > to do simple things like copying a file from a network drive to their
> > local
> > drive. There's too many people in this project for me to start doing
> > that.
> >
> > A related question I have is how many people can I safely have editing a
> > single database (i.e., not a front-end/back-end set-up) simultaneously? I
> > seem to remember doing more than one once, but I also remember reading
> > that
> > it can't support very many. Any details about this? If I was reasonably
> > sure that not more than a few people would be on at any given time, could
> > I
> > just email everyone a link to a single database? Whould it make it any
> > better if I emailed everyone a link to a single front-end database that
> > edited a separate back-end database?
> >
> > Any other thoughts are welcome.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > TD
>
>
> >> Stay informed about: Simple Way to Let Many Edit/View Single Table |
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Since: Mar 08, 2008 Posts: 210
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:30 pm
Post subject: Re: Simple Way to Let Many Edit/View Single Table [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Check out
http://www.granite.ab.ca/Access/autofe.htm
This simplifies keeping the front end updated. From your comments about
installing shortcuts and coping files it think you will find adp an
insermountable task as they will still need shortcuts and you will need
administrators in your back pocket.
"td" <td.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A5C4C831-E115-40B7-8C03-B6374F27154D@microsoft.com...
> "...that's what shortcuts are for."
>
> Well, someone still has to install the shortcuts, and I guarantee you a
> decent percentage of these people don't know how to do that. And I'm not
> an
> administrator, so i can't just push the files and shortcuts onto their
> computers.
>
> I did make a bat file to copy front-end database and make a shortcut (and
> copy some dll files) for a smaller project, but I ended up babysitting
> those
> people too.
>
> Bottom line is that when I do front-end solutions, I end up babysitting a
> bunch of people who don't know how to do even simple things on their
> computers (like copying files and making shortcuts). That is exactly what
> I
> DO do when I have a manageably-sized group, but this new project is too
> big.
> And seems like there must be an easier solution.
>
>
> "Pete D." wrote:
>
>> One, I'm not an expert
>> Two, No one should have to navigate to find work, that is what shortcuts
>> are
>> for
>> Three, Data Access has its place but you need to be advanced user and
>> have
>> full and fuller support of network folks
>> Four, Frontend and backend is very good for workgroup size office
>> Five, copying files should never have to happen at user level, must
>> handle
>> in your application if you want it dependable.
>> Six, Quanty of people using front and backend data file really depends on
>> complexity and size of the datafile. By the way, you can use one front
>> end
>> and many backends to extend Access for record count but be careful with
>> queries, and forms so the backends are logically grouped and closed when
>> not
>> needed.
>> Seven, Every user must have their own front end and they can share the
>> backends as needed.
>> Eight, Performance and quanity of useres, I have used frontend and
>> backend
>> with up to 50 users with no problem and I have also replicated with the
>> 50
>> but if you don't replicate by the numbers...you better have a super
>> backup
>> program.
>> Nine, You want to keep network bandwidth down, why pass forms, and such
>> back
>> and forth, stick with frontend on workstation and data on network!!!!
>> Really good questions, you're thinking, Pete
>>
>> "td" <td.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:368B6B4C-B1B6-4769-954D-0BB6C366F30B@microsoft.com...
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I have a large project with different people working on different
>> > parts.
>> > We
>> > currently have a spreadsheet with some data on the status of each
>> > sub-project. This is slightly cumbersome, because multiple people
>> > can't
>> > use
>> > at the same time and frankly because some non-savvy users simply have a
>> > hard
>> > time navigating to our network drive.
>> >
>> > I was just investigating the possibility of making an Access Data
>> > Access
>> > Page that I could stick on our intranet. I had to have our IT support
>> > install some XML thing on my computer, and the Data Access Page feature
>> > finally works for me in Access, but I can only create Data Access Pages
>> > in
>> > a
>> > general forms view, when what I really want is a datasheet view. The
>> > users
>> > really need to be able to see a table, not one record at a time.
>> >
>> > I'm not wedded to the Data Access Page idea, but does anyone have any
>> > ideas
>> > for alternatives, or for how I can get a datasheet view Data Access
>> > Page?
>> > I
>> > know I could create a front-end/back-end database and hand out copies
>> > of
>> > it,
>> > but I find when that happens I end up babysitting people who don't know
>> > how
>> > to do simple things like copying a file from a network drive to their
>> > local
>> > drive. There's too many people in this project for me to start doing
>> > that.
>> >
>> > A related question I have is how many people can I safely have editing
>> > a
>> > single database (i.e., not a front-end/back-end set-up) simultaneously?
>> > I
>> > seem to remember doing more than one once, but I also remember reading
>> > that
>> > it can't support very many. Any details about this? If I was
>> > reasonably
>> > sure that not more than a few people would be on at any given time,
>> > could
>> > I
>> > just email everyone a link to a single database? Whould it make it any
>> > better if I emailed everyone a link to a single front-end database that
>> > edited a separate back-end database?
>> >
>> > Any other thoughts are welcome.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > TD
>>
>>
>> >> Stay informed about: Simple Way to Let Many Edit/View Single Table |
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Since: Aug 29, 2008 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:38 pm
Post subject: Re: Simple Way to Let Many Edit/View Single Table [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"td" <td.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> escribi贸 en el mensaje de noticias
news:368B6B4C-B1B6-4769-954D-0BB6C366F30B@microsoft.com...
> Hi,
>
> I have a large project with different people working on different parts.
> We
> currently have a spreadsheet with some data on the status of each
> sub-project. This is slightly cumbersome, because multiple people can't
> use
> at the same time and frankly because some non-savvy users simply have a
> hard
> time navigating to our network drive.
>
> I was just investigating the possibility of making an Access Data Access
> Page that I could stick on our intranet. I had to have our IT support
> install some XML thing on my computer, and the Data Access Page feature
> finally works for me in Access, but I can only create Data Access Pages in
> a
> general forms view, when what I really want is a datasheet view. The
> users
> really need to be able to see a table, not one record at a time.
>
> I'm not wedded to the Data Access Page idea, but does anyone have any
> ideas
> for alternatives, or for how I can get a datasheet view Data Access Page?
> I
> know I could create a front-end/back-end database and hand out copies of
> it,
> but I find when that happens I end up babysitting people who don't know
> how
> to do simple things like copying a file from a network drive to their
> local
> drive. There's too many people in this project for me to start doing
> that.
>
> A related question I have is how many people can I safely have editing a
> single database (i.e., not a front-end/back-end set-up) simultaneously? I
> seem to remember doing more than one once, but I also remember reading
> that
> it can't support very many. Any details about this? If I was reasonably
> sure that not more than a few people would be on at any given time, could
> I
> just email everyone a link to a single database? Whould it make it any
> better if I emailed everyone a link to a single front-end database that
> edited a separate back-end database?
>
> Any other thoughts are welcome.
>
> Thanks,
> TD >> Stay informed about: Simple Way to Let Many Edit/View Single Table |
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Since: Nov 15, 2008 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:25 pm
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sorr,I have no any idea about that.Why don't u try google or something
"Pete D." <pduffy211AT.RemoveThis@coxDOT.net> 写入消息新闻:tOHqk.25$Rs1.13@newsfe08.iad...
> One, I'm not an expert
> Two, No one should have to navigate to find work, that is what shortcuts
> are for
> Three, Data Access has its place but you need to be advanced user and have
> full and fuller support of network folks
> Four, Frontend and backend is very good for workgroup size office
> Five, copying files should never have to happen at user level, must handle
> in your application if you want it dependable.
> Six, Quanty of people using front and backend data file really depends on
> complexity and size of the datafile. By the way, you can use one front
> end and many backends to extend Access for record count but be careful
> with queries, and forms so the backends are logically grouped and closed
> when not needed.
> Seven, Every user must have their own front end and they can share the
> backends as needed.
> Eight, Performance and quanity of useres, I have used frontend and backend
> with up to 50 users with no problem and I have also replicated with the 50
> but if you don't replicate by the numbers...you better have a super
> backup program.
> Nine, You want to keep network bandwidth down, why pass forms, and such
> back and forth, stick with frontend on workstation and data on network!!!!
> Really good questions, you're thinking, Pete
>
> "td" <td.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:368B6B4C-B1B6-4769-954D-0BB6C366F30B@microsoft.com...
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a large project with different people working on different parts.
>> We
>> currently have a spreadsheet with some data on the status of each
>> sub-project. This is slightly cumbersome, because multiple people can't
>> use
>> at the same time and frankly because some non-savvy users simply have a
>> hard
>> time navigating to our network drive.
>>
>> I was just investigating the possibility of making an Access Data Access
>> Page that I could stick on our intranet. I had to have our IT support
>> install some XML thing on my computer, and the Data Access Page feature
>> finally works for me in Access, but I can only create Data Access Pages
>> in a
>> general forms view, when what I really want is a datasheet view. The
>> users
>> really need to be able to see a table, not one record at a time.
>>
>> I'm not wedded to the Data Access Page idea, but does anyone have any
>> ideas
>> for alternatives, or for how I can get a datasheet view Data Access Page?
>> I
>> know I could create a front-end/back-end database and hand out copies of
>> it,
>> but I find when that happens I end up babysitting people who don't know
>> how
>> to do simple things like copying a file from a network drive to their
>> local
>> drive. There's too many people in this project for me to start doing
>> that.
>>
>> A related question I have is how many people can I safely have editing a
>> single database (i.e., not a front-end/back-end set-up) simultaneously?
>> I
>> seem to remember doing more than one once, but I also remember reading
>> that
>> it can't support very many. Any details about this? If I was reasonably
>> sure that not more than a few people would be on at any given time, could
>> I
>> just email everyone a link to a single database? Whould it make it any
>> better if I emailed everyone a link to a single front-end database that
>> edited a separate back-end database?
>>
>> Any other thoughts are welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> TD
>
> >> Stay informed about: Simple Way to Let Many Edit/View Single Table |
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