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Roger Stenson

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:16 am
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Hi all
I have a system that reads a VF FoxPro Database version 6. It runs using an
MDAC 2.5 of the VFProDriver VFPODBC.DLL V6.1.8629.1

I have just heard that the system creating the databases is being converted
to VFoxPro v 7. I would be grateful for some advice as to which version of
the ODBC drivers I should aim at these databases.

Roger Stenson

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Joe Nuke Me Xemu F

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 1:16 am
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"Roger Stenson" <r.stenson DeleteThis @ntlworld.com> wrote in message <news:O6FVPCJ2DHA.2528@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>...

 > I have a system that reads a VF FoxPro Database version 6. It runs using an
 > MDAC 2.5 of the VFProDriver VFPODBC.DLL V6.1.8629.1
 >
 > I have just heard that the system creating the databases is being converted
 > to VFoxPro v 7. I would be grateful for some advice as to which version of
 > the ODBC drivers I should aim at these databases.

Hopefully VFP7 includes updated redistributable ODBC drivers!
Otherwise, you'll have to switch over to the "native" OLEDB
driver for MDAC 2.6 or later:

URL:http://microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=0f43eb58-7a94-4ae1-a59e-965869cb3bc9

Where do you want to be goaded today?

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Cindy Winegarden

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 2:13 pm
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In news: O6FVPCJ2DHA.2528.RemoveThis@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl,
Roger Stenson <r.stenson.RemoveThis@ntlworld.com> wrote:
 > I have a system that reads a VF FoxPro Database version 6. It runs
 > using an MDAC 2.5 of the VFProDriver VFPODBC.DLL V6.1.8629.1
 >
 > I have just heard that the system creating the databases is being
 > converted to VFoxPro v 7. I would be grateful for some advice as to
 > which version of the ODBC drivers I should aim at these databases.

Hi Roger,

Visual FoxPro 7 and 8 have new database features that render the tables
unreadable via ODBC. They can, however, be read via OLE DB. The latest VFP
OLE DB data provider is downloadable from a link on
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro/downloads/updates/default.aspx" target="_blank">http://msdn.microsoft.com/vfoxpro/downloads/updates/default.aspx</a> .

Even though the tables are created in VFP7 or VFP8, if none of the new
database features have been used then the tables are still accessible via
ODBC. The driver you have is the latest ODBC driver.

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Cindy Winegarden

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 2:13 pm
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Joe "Nuke Me Xemu" Foster <joe.RemoveThis@bftsi0.UUCP> wrote:
 > Hopefully VFP7 includes updated redistributable ODBC drivers!

As in my other post, the latest and last ODBC drivers are version
6.1.8629.1, which Roger has. There will be no further updates to these
drivers. Microsoft is moving away from ODBC as a data access method.

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Noah Sombrero

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 2:26 pm
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Cindy,

With all your qualifications, you must have come across my "query-based
update failed" problem. I would love to hear what you have to say about
it.

Gleason
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Noah Sombrero

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 2:56 pm
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 >As in my other post, the latest and last ODBC drivers are version
 >6.1.8629.1, which Roger has. There will be no further updates to these
 >drivers. Microsoft is moving away from ODBC as a data access method.

In other words, database connectivity will no longer be "open." Does this
mean that Java will no longer be able to access MS databases? It does
doesn't it? Not that that access was ever good enough that anyone would
want to build a commercial level application using it.

And if it were so that there might be a bug in odbc access, like the "query-based
update failed" issue, well, that bug will not be fixed.

Buy the new development tools folks. No thanks. Fooled me once, your fault.

There is at least one commercial replacement for ODBC available. Expensive, but
less so than the latest from .net, by far.

The one suggestion made a few years ago to the "query-based" problem that I was
not able to try was to make what I need a FoxPro "stored procedure." Which means
that the procedure is stored in the database. Can anyone suggest a place on the
www with a good discussion of FoxPro stored procedures, and a few examples?

Can they be done as a named sql query?

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Cindy Winegarden

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 1:52 am
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In news: 9s5b001i7241fgnb0897d0v81m92365uev RemoveThis @4ax.com,
Noah Sombrero <sombrero RemoveThis @mm.st> wrote:
 > With all your qualifications, you must have come across my
 > "query-based update failed" problem. I would love to hear what you
 > have to say about it.

Hi Noah,

I hadn't seen it before you drew my attention to it. It didn't trigger any
of my OE rules that highlight certian messages. Since you see the problem
with many different back-end databases then I doubt the problem is in the
database. Which ODBC driver were you using?

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Noah Sombrero

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 1:52 am
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While not effing the ineffable, "Cindy Winegarden" <cindy.winegarden.DeleteThis@mvps.org> managed to say:

 >I hadn't seen it before you drew my attention to it. It didn't trigger any
 >of my OE rules that highlight certian messages. Since you see the problem
 >with many different back-end databases then I doubt the problem is in the
 >database. Which ODBC driver were you using?

I have only first hand experience with this error in VB/FoxPro. My research in
google showed me that this problem occurs on many platforms in very much
the same form. In my continued frenzy to finally solve this problem, I came
across a discussion in mailing.database.myodbc (yes that is usenet). They
were talking about Myodbc there as they should, but about my problem in
their environment.

The suggestion was to never use update on a recordset. Always do updates
with

connection.execute "update table set x=y where condition" (vb speak)

Guess what...

There are hundreds of people out there probably still searching for that answer.

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Cindy Winegarden

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 1:57 am
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In news: r26b009btdq6jb6t1rpc5l4f8dbc5lk9nb DeleteThis @4ax.com,
Noah Sombrero <sombrero DeleteThis @mm.st> wrote:
 > The one suggestion made a few years ago to the "query-based" problem
 > that I was not able to try was to make what I need a FoxPro "stored
 > procedure." Which means that the procedure is stored in the
 > database. Can anyone suggest a place on the www with a good
 > discussion of FoxPro stored procedures, and a few examples?

All of the Visual FoxPro documentation is online in the MSDN Library.


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(Msg. 10) Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 1:57 am
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While not effing the ineffable, "Cindy Winegarden" <cindy.winegarden RemoveThis @mvps.org> managed to say:

  >> procedure." Which means that the procedure is stored in the
  >> database. Can anyone suggest a place on the www with a good
  >> discussion of FoxPro stored procedures, and a few examples?
 >
 >All of the Visual FoxPro documentation is online in the MSDN Library.

Yes, I have the cd and I have looked at what is online. As is so often the
case, the answer that I need is not there. And that includes a good
discussion of stored procedures. Stored procedures was a useless idea
by the way. I went to the local technical bookstore and spent $50
for a good book on the subject to find out that FoxPro stored procedures
work very poorly through odbc. If you want to do stored procedures with
FoxPro, you need to also have SQL Server involved. Wrong answer.

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Cindy Winegarden

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:16 pm
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Noah Sombrero <sombrero.DeleteThis@mm.st> wrote:
 > The suggestion was to never use update on a recordset. Always do
 > updates
 > with
 >
 > connection.execute "update table set x=y where condition" (vb speak)

I'm glad you found a solution!

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 12:17 pm
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Noah Sombrero <sombrero DeleteThis @mm.st> wrote:
 > ... FoxPro stored procedures
 > work very poorly through odbc.

The VFP OLE DB data provider has much better support for stored procedures.

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:30 am
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Noah Sombrero wrote:

 > Cindy,
 >
 > With all your qualifications, you must have come across my "query-based
 > update failed" problem. I would love to hear what you have to say about
 > it.
 >
 > Gleason<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 9:21 am
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If 8129 is the last driver to be made available then where did I get version 8630 (6/19/2003)?



----- Cindy Winegarden wrote: -----

In news: Ow2HpbK2DHA.3656.RemoveThis@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl,
Joe "Nuke Me Xemu" Foster <joe.RemoveThis@bftsi0.UUCP> wrote:
  > Hopefully VFP7 includes updated redistributable ODBC drivers!

As in my other post, the latest and last ODBC drivers are version
6.1.8629.1, which Roger has. There will be no further updates to these
drivers. Microsoft is moving away from ODBC as a data access method.

--
Cindy Winegarden MCSD, Microsoft Visual FoxPro MVP
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu May 27, 2004 2:23 pm
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Darrell Wesley <anonymous RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
 > If 8129 is the last driver to be made available then where did I get
 > version 8630 (6/19/2003)?

I think there were two versions - one installed separately and one as part
of a merge module. Otherwise, the function was the same.

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